Mick West UFO/UAP skeptic: our favorite!?

 Luis Elizondo: UFOs, UAPs, AATIP, and TTSA

https://youtu.be/Eozxt_HnPu4?si=eSSoMVgLfwovIxKp

Response to David Fravor "debunking" me on Lex Fridman

https://youtu.be/fT1uRf5_dF4?si=ANax-WICsA7snkff

Asses!

 

Just some comments not for public notice

 Let me make some notes here….
 
Zeke provided a few interesting comments at the open blog – Conjectures -- but not in or under the topic they referred to, so they’re on hold.
 
Little input, except from Ron, for any of the items eating up (some) media and the UFO community on Reddit, Facebook, et cetera.
 
Ron continues to be flummoxed by the ongoing and perpetual nonsense of government agencies and the UFO community itself, with the likes of Dr. Greer and long-time contenders for UFO (flying saucer) attention. (I’m with him on that.)
 
Dominick continues, like Greer and other “disclosure” fans, to hope for some kind of government admittance of UFO capture and a confirmation of an ET explanation for the phenomenon.
 
It seems clear, to some of us, that any insertion of UFOs or “non-humans” into our reality, come from another aspect of reality – another dimension, or abutting universe, not another planet from interstellar space.
 
(The number of intrusions makes the hesitancy to accept a space-traveling species.)
 
 Martin Black is rather quiet.
 
And the sometimes recurring remarks from old-regulars at the open blogs – Nick Hebert and the Facebook guys I’ve pissed off for calling them out on their pseudo-scientific efforts – don’t show up at Conjectures, and they’ve gone into hiding on Facebook where I still have a few fans.
 
And speaking of Facebook, there are indications that some of the UFO geezers have intuitions that they are near death: their activities have an unconscious element of push that comes from a feeling of imminent death.
 
Malcolm Robinson, Andy Roberts, Rick Hilberg, Rich Hoffman et al. seem indulged in final moments. (I’ll have more on this shortly.)

RR

This examples the lack of self-awareness by UFO people

 

This is Cheryl Costa, a UFO almost notable. They* are a 'Trans" and a FB friend but they have no idea about how to exploit their personality or looks.

This is what disturbs me (sort of).

When UFO people display their proclivities for attention, and look loopy, that reflects on we, normal, folks who know better and are more reserved, knowing what our personal shortcomings are.

That UFOers are already savaged for being tin-foil hatters, looking goofy doesn't help the public characterizations.

* "They" is how "enlightened" media refers to trans-sexuals, the term reaching cachet just as "queer" has become the lingua franka for homosexuals/gays.

RR

Greg Bishop's interview Diana Walsh Pasulka -- Encounters takes us into a more esoteric niche in ufology. Dr. Pasulka and Greg cover her forthcoming book Encounters, which in one way continues Pasulka's remarkable American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, and Technology. But Encounters is a "much deeper dive" at What's Happening at current ufology's borders by one more at home in the field. Observations on the multiplicative value of teamwork, about witness accuracy, and more challenging concepts like the "overview effect" form part of this fascinating discussion. (WM)

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Greg Bishop has been at the fringe of UFO relevance for a very long time. His pertinence is pathetic.

My pal, the Anomalist's Bill Murphy and I think my buddy Paul Kimball seem favorably disposed to Bishop, but why?

Bishop is a UFO flunky, and if you've ever heard one of his horrendously boring Radio Misterioso "programs" -- not a podcast but a smidgen of crap -- you know what I mean....

His promotion of Diana Pasulka derives from their initial contact during her work on that pitiful book of her's: American Cosmic.''

I panned the book as did Bryan Sentes, who is generally forgiving of academic efforts, but in this instance, her "Valley Girl" approach to the UFO phenomenon was a bit much.

That she hasn't made a mark in her field of academic study -- Religious History -- caused her to publish her UFO materials, where she has made an inconsequential but somewhat significant niche with persons at the fringe of Ufology, like Bishop.

Bishop promotes losers like himself, to no avail, but he persists.

That Bill Murphy sees value in him or Pasulka is distressing but there it is...

RR

The loss of Rich Hoffman as a FB "friend"

Rich Hoffman dropped me as a Facebook “friend” because of my SCU harangue – on Conjecture – about the effort being “pretend” research and wouldn’t, couldn’t get to the essence of the phenomenon, UFOs.

 
Here are some of his responses (from Facebook Messenger) and his final missive:

Here are my responses to him:

This started from a SCU announcement on FB from one of its members who was touting the latest (foolish) outing of the SCU members, an outing to gather “data” from a night of sky-watching; an endeavor I scorned on FB.

 
Hoffman’s YouTube announcement, seen in the Conjecture video, added fuel to my livid dislike of the pretense that these guys are doing something worthwhile and valuable.
 
Moreover, Rich Hoffman had become, for me, an archetype of the UFO geezer epithet I employ to single out such loony activities as that which SCU (and others) are engaged in.
 
Hoffman provides, on Facebook, surfeits of postings showcasing his non-UFO existence:
Ship cruises, sojourns to holiday venues, trips to sit in on UFO (UAP for him) gatherings, and pictures of flowers he likes – all okay for his FB pals but insipid as most geezer activities are,
 
That he believes and lauds SCU’s enterprises as ‘’scientific research” annoys. The SCU boys have shown some interesting visuals of UFOs and their behavior, but we all have seen a plethora of such videos and long-ago accepted the reality of UFOs, long before the public and news media acceptance of that reality.
 
SCU’s videos are nifty and their analyses intrigue but the horse got out of that barn when the AATIP videos showed up.
 
To keep foraging for “data” – a term SCU and other “research wannabes use to augment their pathetic enterprises – is a wheel spinning exercise in irrationality and borders on delusions of grandeur.
 
Feel free to comment. We’re in a private zone now where you won’t be excoriated by the rabble…
 
RR

Disclosure, disclosure, disclosure!

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Dipping into Facebook Saturday night [8/1/20] – to check my media connection – I found several notifi- cations about new postings from the UFO UpDates group and administered nicely by Curt Collins.

For several days now, there, and in my Google UFO newsfeeds are dollops about the supposed acknowledgment by the Pentagon that its long-secretive, ongoing UFO study is about to announce that it thinks the UFOs [UAP] encountered by U.S. Navy pilots and other military are off-Earth vehicles.

A botched New York Times piece, revised after its initial publication, created the anticipation of “disclosure” by, from what I can tell, UFO fringers: persons not well-known or even known at all among the usual contingent of noted UFO enthusiasts.

These closeted or passive UFO newbies and UFO hermits are drooling at the possibility that the U.S. government may be about to tell the public (us) that UFOs exist and are from somewhere off the planet, the fringers hoping that the news is a disclosure of an extraterrestrial presence on Earth now (and for a very long time up to now).

What little contact I’ve had with the fringers indicates a hoary lot, disheveled and ignorant generally, rude and without class or taste of any kind. I could name them but a few have been around a long time, without making a ufological mark and are angry with me already for closing this blog to them where now they have to ask for “permission” to see my dopey renderings; e.g., skeptic Tim Printy for one and a mess of a guy, Roy Hale.

It’s good that Facebook is losing advertisers by the sh*tload and is about to be broken up by the government for deleterious behavior. This should clean the UFO palate there or mitigate the offensive effluvia.

We’ll see.

RR